Again, if he wanted to state it was stronger, he would've. SSJ Gotenks is already stronger than SSJ3 Goku, how much stronger do you think U.Gohan is? SSJ2 Gogeta (talk) 18:50, March 14, 2015 (UTC), Gogeta > or = Vegito > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Goku > Sonic > Mario. Vegito wasn't just playing with buu so he could free them it was cause it was fun too. Goku told Trunks he had to lower his power to match Goten's or the fusion dance wouldn't work. Old Kai's statement can easily support this--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 14:57, March 18, 2014 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96, Like I said, I don't use the Daizenshuu as it has major flaws. SSJ4 Goku is much stronger than Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta as stated by both Old Kai and Goku himself. I do not believe that Goku SSJ4 is just Super Vegito level, it does not make sense to me. He always wanted fusion. Vegito is stronger because the fusion via Potara Earrings is stated to be the perfect fusion. Now, Super Vegito was easily beating Buu, but go to the fight with Super Janemba. Piccolohan19 Talk Random? Gogeta would probably win. Fusion Dance is affected too by power. I have Base Vegito with the same ingredients (SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta) at 10,000. Becasue of this single fact, it's a possibility that Vegito and Gogeta are indeed equals, assuming that the Fusion Dance or Potara Earings don't grant any extra boost than the other. Elder Kai said it didn't hurt that Goku and Vegeta live to outdo each other. All team HP depleted Time expires HP of all allies in area depleted Plot Edit. Vegito SSJ = 180bil (already surpassed Gogeta SSJ4), Vegito SSJG is 72x stronger than Gogeta SSJG and 1,200x stronger than Goku SSJG. Vegito SSJ = 180bil (already surpassed Gogeta SSJ4) Vegito SSJ2 = 360bil Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! Goten admitted that they were equal to Buu but not stronger. Even Gohan is above that, I mean, come on. The warriror who is stronger clearly depicts Vegito, but that would be an assumption my part as Gotenks is on your part. Potara is stated to be "more effective" than Fusion Dance. Oh and since we're using movies, SSJ3 Goku>Ultimate Gohan Movie 14 Wrath of the Dragon.Ultimatessj1 (talk) 04:39, March 31, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, SSJ4 Goku DBZ would probably be weaker than Super Vegetto/Gogeta, but much stronger than U.Gohan. By that logic Gohan would just lower his power level to Goku's base and when they fused it would take their max equal power level which we will say is SSJ3, and add them together and multiply that number by 2. I still like gogeta more though--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 02:48, November 5, 2013 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96. He threw it to Gohan and he missed it. It would also make for the goriest display in the series. Now I believe you are talking about when Goku suggests fusion and the Old Kai shows him the potara earings. i think gogeta is stronger but vegito could outlast him and win the fight overall if he could last that long. Old Kai only said better. It's obvious from that point on that Vegito is stronger than UG, who's better than SSJ3 Goku, and anyone who thinks Sonic is better, which may seem irrelevant but it is part of  DBZ / Sonic, should be checked for being mentally retarded or having Fanboyitus, and as a fan of both Goku is WAY better. Gogeta wins. At equal levels I'm leaning towards Gogeta. Newsflash people, Vegito and Gogeta are made of the same two people. Piccolo says that according to Buu he was just warming up with Gotenks. Gogeta's magic stardust sparkle glitter would be able to dispel Vegito's magic earrings, but Vegito could turn the tables by using his teleport punch to split Gogeta. Vegito is vastly superior to any fighter in any Dragon Ball series and is in a complete leage of his own. So, Super Janemba is, obviously, WAY stronger than Buu, which, makes Super Vegito, at most, just as strong as Super Janemba, yet, Super Gogeta killed him with just a kick and his finishing blast. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 18:28, February 24, 2014 (UTC), i think gogeta. Sure Gogeta happened before Vegito, but at least he got the job done, and being SSJ all the time is pretty badass. Late to the party but lets get started! They literally say "stronger". Saying there's no time limit for Gogeta, I think Vegetto would still be able to keep up with Gogeta. This is all we know: That's all we really know based off the anime, where Vegito appeared, and "Fusion Reborn," where Gogeta appeared. There is NOTHING in the manga or anime that suggest Vegetto>Gogeta. Yes, Vegetto would win in almost every scenario, but that's because his fusion lasts longer. U.Gohan is much stronger than SSJ3 Goku. And Majin Buu could've killed Vegeta, SS3 Goku > Majin Buu > Vegeta. SSJ = 1200x base power (we've seen varrying numbers), Goku SSJ4 = 3.6bil* (remember this number). Vegito is stronger. I say that they are both equals. Personally, I think that SSJ4 Goku oneshots Vegito, and Syn was giving him trouble. Even the video games have it that way. So let's take Goku's SSJ4 power level (3.6bil) and make it Vegito's base power. I stated there is not correct way for calculating either fusion technique, so they are my opinion, but it makes sense. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 19:09, March 17, 2014 (UTC), Daizenshuu 7 wrote: SSJ6Vegeta (talk) 17:51, September 14, 2014 (UTC), alright when comparing gogeta and vegito looking through the various sources ( both official and unofficial ) vegito is the stronger of the two but only slightly even if the time limit is removed (and it won't ) both are capable of using the kaio-ken both are capable of  ssj 3 and even using the spirit bomb. Even then, effect is greater, still doesn't make Vegetto>Gogeta. Or the one where it states Goten is equal to Gohan? You guys are idiots. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Gogeta_vs_vegito_who_do_you_think_is_stronger%3F%3F?oldid=1373746, By that logic, "because Goku is stronger than Vegeta, that somehow makes one of the other fusions of them stronger than the other.". I think Vegito is slightly stronger than Gogeta. Possibly, but that would be an assumption, and assumptions don't beat out statements. All you have to do is snap on earings. So it was less effedtive in the long run, but still very effective. When Goku and Vegeta fuse via fusion dance they immediately become Super Gogeta, which is Gogeta as a Super Saiyan. This is actually a very tough debate. Either would work and make "Gokhan" much stronger than Buutenks. Please, go ahead and check for mathematical errors. I like Gogeta more because of his serious and straight to the point attitude that reminds me of Future Trunks, but Vegito is stronger. Vegito vs. Zamasu The Broly movie showed that the fusion dance is not affected by power levels like it was with SSJ3 Gotenks in DBZ. I don't know why Wiki Forums have to be like this but I shall roll with it. It is generally agreed that Vegito is more dominant than Gogeta. To me, they're equal, regardless of Vegeta having SSJ3 or not, since I see fusion dance using BOTH fusees max power. SSJ Gotenks was holding his own and surpassed Super Buu once he went to SSJ3. Well acctually, all other things being equal Vegetto would still be 'stronger' because he doesn't have to worry about timing out, messing up the fusion, etc. So let's take Goku's SSJ4 power level (3.6bil) and make it Vegito's base power. Goku, the manga, and practically everyone else, state that U.Gohan is a lot stronger. I think Vegito would win this one just because of how the potara earings bring about the perfect fusion. If Goku has achieved SSJ3 and Vegeta has unlocked SSJ2, the Gogeta could easily get SSJ2 and then to SSJ3. He is the more perfect fusion. Old Kai was about to let them do it, but advised against it since he realized how slow it takes and I quote: Old Kai: "Fusion, huh? Vegito is vastly superior to any fighter in any Dragon Ball series and is in a complete leage of his own. He didnt use super saiyan 3. Goku >>>.vegeta. You say Gohan could match it to Goku's SSJ3, but who says two SSJ3 fusions (Goku) would be strong enough? My evidence for this is that Super Janemba wasn't even fased by super saiyan 3 goku, who was able to hold his own against super buu gohan absorbed, while gogeta not once threw a real punch at Janemba, wasn't even fased by him, and destroyed him in less than a minute. Nothing in the manga or anime indicate that Vegetto is stronger. But, I'd say Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. Potara is definitely not 1000x stronger than fusion dance lol. Old kai said "what's more is that since they're rivals they're even stronger". So we know that the power levels of the users have to be equal for the Fusion Dance. He acts mostly like Vegito. Buutenks ran out of time on Gotenks Fusion, so he became Buuiccolo. And Goku and Gohan were going to use the Potara Fusion to defeat Buutenks. 04:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC). It all comes down to how strong you have the fusees. The answer is Vegito. Super Gotenks was not on par with Super Buu. Anyway they are most likely equals in power level also maybe the earring lowered gokus power lvl to vegeta's so equal. Old Kai implied it was a better way to fuse, meaning, since Fusion is used in dire situations, it's a better method since you don't have to worry about messing up, or waste time doing the dance. Super saiyan 3 Goku was no match for him at all. 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